Secondly, those outpost slot increases are off by about one order of magnitude. The design goal should be that if you really max out an indy station, you should have 500GÇô700 manufacturing slotsGǪ even these new numbers aren't nearly enough to get there.

if you put frigs (scrambling or otherwise) in forsaken hubs, you will have nerfed the last little bit of good isk making in null sec anoms. The close range battlecruisers that a lot of people use to do them will become un-usable (unless you add drones bays to all the former tier 3s that do't have them, namely the naga).

The frigless forsaken hub is the only anomaly that sub caps can use to match some empire isk making pve techniques (liek incursions and empire DED farming). This seems a big huge mistake as it will only nerf individual pilot isk making. Not fatal, but defineately a serious wound.

A better idea would be scramming cruisers for hubs with like a 35 km scram range. The problem with forsaken hubs is lack of scramming things, not lack of frigs.

I get 230 max manufacturing slots.

50 (base) + 2*20 (basics) + 2*40 (standard) + 1*60 (improved).

Sanctum isk/hr is fine, frigs have a serious unexpected effect on isk hour, it's why forsaken hubs are by far the most popular anomalies (most people use battleships, and even BS with webs and tracking bonuses and light drones can have a hard time)

Decreasing the number of frigs and adding more battlecrusiers to sanctums is nice, but any frigs in forskaen hubs will just kill Teir3 anom farming (nagas already have only just enough slots for tank, how do you add a web to that?).

The devblog doesn't actually say frigs it says pirates, so if it's not frigs being added to forsaken hubs, no harm no foul. But if it is frigs , that's a huge nerf to grunt player income which could have bad effects on null sec pvp. It's goingt o be iteresting to see what happens to null pvp with these changes in general.

We are also making some small tweaks to the NPC composition of Hubs and Sanctums. Switching a few of the NPCs in Hubs to the tougher Elite Frigates and Cruisers, and switching a few of the Elites in Sanctums out for battlecruisers. The changes are still being tweaked and tuned, but the intended result is a better balance between the different anomalies, giving Sanctums the advantage in isk per hour over the easier to find Hubs.

LOL..just love reading the null bears "wah, wah...my null sec income might be affected". High sec just took another body slam, and you clowns laugh when high sec gets crushed. Now we have one ship class potentially affected by an NPC change, and people lose their minds.

Hypocrites all of you.

You must not rat for your isk.

Forsaken hubs are the only reasons right now to not completely abbandon null sec for empire incursions and high sec 4/10 farming. The things you have to do to kill ANY frigs in a battleship in an anom means you can do other things , and you can do them at all in an Attack BC except for the Talos which sucks outside of Serp/Angel space.

CCP: "So, our players want to 'Burn Jita'? THIS is how you set Jita on fire... "

Let the speculations begin :)

i disagree; once properly balanced the smarter miners can realize that the riches of a/b/c outweigh the occasional barge loss

risk is a cost and the people in nullsec will be the ones who can properly value it not run from it screaming in terror

Totally ok with risk vs reward. Would settle for Hi-sec being ENTERTAINING, especially for those of us with small chunks of playtime.

Like I said in another post... I WANT null-sec to be the best place for when I have time for it.

You can't drag people out of high-sec.

No they won't. What do you think would happen if they removed all belts in high sec? Think they would go down into lowsec? No. Many would quit, and those who don't would stop the mining profession and do something else. Highsec mining exists for a reason don't you think?

It does, but 100% not exactly. However, you're implying that players will go where the isk is where if there is isk in low/nullsec mining then they will venture there to mine. What I am saying is many won't.

You'll note that CCP is specifically catering to low/null miners already with the mineral changes to the ores in those areas.

Some people like to camp gates and set up border traps ... but to have it almost be a requirement that lots of people be on every border gate at all times seems, for lack of a better word, asinine to me.

The names for the new Composites and Intermediates are terrible. They don't fit in with the rest of the names, nor do they conform to existing materials.

Thulihaf?
ProMerc?

Really?

Please note that all names for the new materials and composites are placeholders.

You won't find any because this expansion is, and looks like those for the foreseeable future, are all about the null sec crowd. CCP's listening to the null sec zealots who scream the loudest on the forums as well as the null dominated CSM. This isn't about balance or simply buffing null, it's about buffing null at the expense of high sec. This is what the zealots have been striving for for years. They want high sec to be a starter area for newbies with only very limited resources so that targets are driven out to low sec and potential worker drones to null.

Hey, high sec is the perfect isk generating, no risk, no skill required paradise. The non-valued suckers, err I mean...subscribers there, don't deserve anything better, right?

Yeah, there are things that are broken with null especially but, why correct those issues on the backs of one particular group of players?

Miners don't get respect in null. They get treated like renters... renters wearing dresses.

You can bet that ice interdiction parties by the null sec cartels will be a common thing.
They have the resources, pilots, and organization to mine out ice belts FAST, and at the same time bump/ destroy any other non-allied mining ships from the belts.

It will become a situation that they will have ongoing threads on their private forums stating the precise time that a new belt will spawn, allowing the next wave of their pilots 4 TZ's over to grab the entire belt's worth of ice.

Yeah, because having a 24/7 icemining division in highsec has always been mittens favorite wet dream

If there is an opportunity to control a resource, and make vast sums of ISK, the null sec cartels will allocate whatever human resources are required for a solution. It is a matter of cost / benefit.

Given that, why would anyone care how many build slots 0.0 has? What does it even matter if a 0.0 bloc has more than hi-sec?

Will this be adjusted down so as to eat into stockpiles, cause else the 20% deficiency is going to take years before non-high-sec ice mining will be needed.

I'm not a miner myself, but something that I haven't really seen taken into account yet is that ORE ships use oxygen isotopes as well, along with one of the more popular JFs (Anshar).

We've been very busy with fanfest and myself with getting these devblogs out the door. We're definitely not done taking feedback on those balance changes.

Oh look it's the null sec is everywhere narrative now.

There are now some 400,000 - 450,000 accounts in EvE.

Now there only seem to be 50-100,000 characters in Null Alliances. So even if we say 100,000 with 200,000 alts in Hi-sec. That is a small drop compared to the over 1,000,000 characters in Hi-sec.

At best you are 20% of Hi-sec, at best. more likely you are 10% or below.